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john
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Posted - 14 Jul 2004 :  3:02:38 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
Would there be any support for this type of meeting. "Maybe we could run a meeting that has a 3 hour endurance with open slather on the machines apart from a stated capacity. The old 6 hour meetings had support because manufactureres sold bikes on the results.
But any meeting we run would have to gain support from other sources. Perhaps we could let them have a spare bike that can be swapped, and perhaps even rebuilt during the event. If you ran as a team like a relay race. Perhaps even club vs club. You mentioned earlier on the phone something about wearing a sash. With 3 or 4 bikes, 3or 4 riders and the aim being to get the sash in first place, with one bike of the team on the track at anytime. It could be interesting."
 

 
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john
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Posted - 14 Jul 2004 :  5:26:37 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
From Alan Cotheral
"If you wanted to make the event 'historic endurance racing', you could have a cut-off date of 1985 for all major components except tyres. Limit tyres to 'treaded only'. No 'deltabox' frames.
The sash I referred to should be open with Velcro ends. Whoever the current rider is must wear the sash.
Teams racing has never been big in Australia, but the car guys use the sash idea. There's a bit of a safety problem controlling the change of riders/machines (with sash), but nothing that can't be overcome. 3 bikes/riders would be enough to make up a team and if the team represented a club or a business, that would be great!
The beauty of this type of event is that anyone can win, remember Joe Eastmure on the 315 Suzuki, in the Six Hour. "


 

 
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acotrel
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Posted - 14 Jul 2004 :  8:40:22 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
John, Do you think Rex would build one of these?:
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popeye
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Posted - 15 Jul 2004 :  08:33:58 AM  Show Profile Send popeye a Private Message  

 
FWOOOARRRR!!!!!

too bad I just sold the 750.

I would have my hand up for a jumper in a P4/5 CB350 team. The concept has some merit as a showcase (non-championship) event to elevate exposure to the general public.
 

 
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acotrel
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Posted - 15 Jul 2004 :  11:06:01 AM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
I can only remember a few two hour proddy races held at Calder years ago. They generated a lot of spectator interest, which I couldn't really understand.
The bikes run at Bol D'or, Montjuich and Suzuka, were often highly modified (like the Japauto Hondas). This sort of racing should really appeal to the guys with the big appendages. The Le Mans starts were really good fun. A lot of current road bikes were developed from Endurance Racers.
 

 
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john
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Posted - 15 Jul 2004 :  12:45:06 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
Can you ask around your mates and see if they would put their hands up. I shall ring Rex and others I can think of, can others do the same and report back here. I need good support before starting to plan anything.

It could be a one day event, track costs would be $3000 for a Sunday, permits perhaps $1000 and ambo $225, so you can see why we need to get support up front before doing much. Timing would be a waste of money so you could save on that, but spectators would be the way to keep racing costs down.
Convince me there is a need and I shall work on it.
It may have to involve modern machines.
 

 
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acotrel
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Posted - 15 Jul 2004 :  5:52:15 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
John, We could run a 3 hour endurance race on the Sunday afternoon of a normal two day meeting. I cannot see any real reason to limit the machinery in any way. You'd need a way to identify the teams (like club colours tied to the riders' backs and fronts) and a velcro sash. It'd be worth trying on a club day first, just to get the problems sorted.
As far as determining who's interested, let's toss the idea around in this forum and in club newsletters. If you are serious about trying this, perhaps you should write to each MA affiliated club and ask what they think?
 

 
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john
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Posted - 16 Jul 2004 :  08:28:18 AM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
I dont believe we need to write to every club.
There are many people who read this site, they can comment if they are intrested and enthusiastic. In my experience writing to clubs has a very limited benefit, it would cost about $400 and you may not get a reply. Using this site costs time, and you still dont get responces but you have saved the doish.
People have to be prepared to say, "That sounds good" I'll try it.
Unfortunately we have found that silence is the greatest noise, and when we run a new successful event, its amazing the number of times I here, " I should have gone to that "
Feedback is wonderful, it does not take much effort, but it can spur a humble secretary along.
 

 
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acotrel
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Posted - 16 Jul 2004 :  11:30:16 AM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
Shouldn't cost you $400 to write to Hartwell, Sandringham, Preston. You are probably right about not getting responses. When I've written to these clubs the letters have never been answered, and that makes it difficult to do anything constructive in motorcycling!
 

 
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john
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Posted - 16 Jul 2004 :  2:22:49 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
"If you are serious about trying this, perhaps you should write to each MA affiliated club and ask what they think?'
Al, you made this suggestion, thats why I quoted $400.
ANyway, lets wait until others show their hand first.
 

 
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acotrel
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Posted - 16 Jul 2004 :  6:39:10 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
John, The idea is still a bl**dy good one! If I can help - please ask! (especially if there's anything Winton Motor Raceway can do, I know Mick was interested in this concept)
 

 
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