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acotrel
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 Posted - 28 Sep 2007 : 10:21:20 AM
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In the early fifties I used to go to road race meetings with my uncle and his mate who were in the StKilda Club. In those days there was a strange rule in the ACU handbook about 'malingering'. I remember discussing it with my uncle, but neither of us knew what it meant. I suspect it related to stalling around during a race with the intention of helping someone else win, or to disable a regularly winning rider. You guys are into history - does anyone know why this rule appeared and if it actually carried a penalty for infringement? Perhaps MA has records, or Jim Scaysbrook might know?
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Patrick
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Victoria
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Posted - 28 Sep 2007 : 7:30:06 PM
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............maybe it was meant to be read as MA lingering .. in the wings
Did the St Kilda Club promote road race meetings? Be great to get your memories of these events Alan.
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john feakes
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Posted - 01 Oct 2007 : 08:57:16 AM
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| Malingering-feigning illness to avoid work. So presumably feigning machine problems to enable someone else to finish in a higher position than otherwise would have been the case. This from one often accused (wrongly) of being a malingerer. Cheers, John |
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acotrel
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Victoria
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Posted - 02 Oct 2007 : 07:53:06 AM
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| I can't remember where the StKilda Club used to meet. My uncle's friend Albert French Rolfe used to ride a 7R AJS for someone in the Club, and I used to know the name - I'll probably remember later. We went to the Geoff Duke meeting at Fisherman's Bend in 1954, and I remember I was disappointed that the Gileras had black exhaust pipes. Duke made everone else look silly. Alby rode against him at Bandiana. He said when Duke passed him, he felt he could get off and walk! Our boy fled Australia after a road accident in which a young woman was injured, and the cops were after him. He went to Italy and bougt a double knocker MV125 which he took to Great Britain. He raced there a few times, but went to see the IOM and got scared sh*tless. I don't know what happened after that. He had a repaired head injury that would have shortened his life. Alby came from Goroke - in the Wimmera. Someone from there probably knows the rest of his story. |
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acotrel
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Victoria
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Posted - 02 Oct 2007 : 07:57:21 AM
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| My brother has a photo of Alby on the MV. I'll try to get it and scan it. I'll put it up here, it's a bit interesting. We've seen single knocker MV125s in Oz. I've never seen a double knocker one here. The price in those days was 300 pounds Australian! |
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john
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Victoria
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Posted - 10 Nov 2007 : 9:52:23 PM
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Malingering- action of pommy bike riders when standing back wondering when their machine will actually nmove down a road under its own steam.
Pushlingering - similar to malingering but describes the action of a pommy bike being pushed along a road. Very common practise.
Japlingering - the action of a jap bike cruising past Mal or push lingerers. |
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briang
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Posted - 04 Jan 2008 : 09:58:26 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Patrick
............maybe it was meant to be read as MA lingering .. in the wings
Did the St Kilda Club promote road race meetings? Be great to get your memories of these events Alan.
I was a member of the stKilda club in the fiftys they had a few riders that occasionlty rode in road races . My last ride was at Darley and we had George Murphy, Geof Blyth etc.
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acotrel
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Victoria
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Posted - 04 Jan 2008 : 7:18:00 PM
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I don't remember much about the StKilda Club. I went to the 1954 Geoff Duke meeting with Alby Rolfe. He rode the 7R AJS there, also at Bandiana I believe. He said that when Duke passed him on the Gilera, he felt he could get off and walk. I suggest that Alan Greening might know more about StKilda Club, he was the Hartwell Clubman of the Year in the mid -fifties and would have been much more aware of what was happening then.
Interested in the reference to George Murphy, he was a friend of another of my uncles -other side of family. The time I'm talking about was 1954, I was 14! The Gilera was most impressive at Fisherman's Bend. We'd never heard four cylinder bikes until then. I remember being disappointed that it had black exhaust pipes. It must have been a real shock to the boys. 7 speeds would have made it really get up and march, let alone twice the number of valves, and real race cams! |
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Patrick
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Victoria
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Posted - 04 Jan 2008 : 10:36:49 PM
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Originally posted by briang
I was a member of the stKilda club in the fiftys they had a few riders that occasionlty rode in road races . My last ride was at Darley and we had George Murphy, Geof Blyth etc.
Regards
Brian
Thanks Brian and a great first post... hope you can remember if St Kilda Club had clubrooms or where they met to plan there various events.
Did they join up with Sandringham in latter years?
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acotrel
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Victoria
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Posted - 06 Jan 2008 : 04:01:46 AM
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| I believe Sandringham Club might not have been around at the same time as St Kilda Club. I only seem to remember Harley Club, East Malvern, Preston and Hartwell. As historic racers , we should know the history of motorcycling in Victoria. I've got Jim Scaysbrooks book, however it's got more info on NSW than Vic. |
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briang
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Posted - 02 Mar 2008 : 3:02:08 PM
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Originally posted by Patrick
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Originally posted by briang
I was a member of the stKilda club in the fiftys they had a few riders that occasionlty rode in road races . My last ride was at Darley and we had George Murphy, Geof Blyth etc.
Regards
Brian
Thanks Brian and a great first post... hope you can remember if St Kilda Club had clubrooms or where they met to plan there various events.
Did they join up with Sandringham in latter years?
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briang
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Posted - 02 Mar 2008 : 3:11:19 PM
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Acotrel
I was to ride at the Bandiana meet clubman on a friends Gold Star I followed Geof Duke around the first slow lap Then he accelerated and threw rubber and black top at me. (What a bike)I later met him when Jimmy Gilfoyle built him a BSA to ride at a 250cc only scramble(have a couple of photos of me with him). He was pretty useless at scrambling. |
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briang
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Posted - 03 Mar 2008 : 12:29:33 PM
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As far as I can remember the ST Kilda club met in a hall at the south melb end of Albert Park Lake . If they went with Sandringham it was after I retired in the late fiftys.
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