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Nitro
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 Posted - 19 Jun 2008 : 4:57:13 PM
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Hello guys
I dont know if my question is in the right section of the forum.
You can move this to the proper location if need be :)
I recently bought a 1973 Honda CB350, atleast I think its a 1973. The reason I say this is because I got it from an Army Auction hence I basically was provided with a Letter of Authority from the Army (with the correct chasis and engine number ofcourse) making the bike road legal. A friend of mine who knows a thing or two about bikes, insists that it is a 1971-2 model ; the bike has 2 cylinders, not 4...but the papers say that it has 1 cylinder, so we are a bit confused there as well. This is what the papers say :
Chasis # 4115241
Engine # 4169644
Honda CD350
Year of manufacture : 1973
# of Cylinder : 1
Now the problem is that I have taken this bike to a number of mechanics in my area and they tinker with the points (left & right), make it sputter back to life, hand me a bill and off i go. It will run fine for a few kilometers and then one of the points would die out i.e. it will start missing (the dreaded sound which all classic bike owners are aware of  )
Might I add that other than that, the bike is in perfect condition (even the light inside the meter works!)
So my question is this, how do I get a CDI for my bike? and where?
I am in Pakistan btw so there are no local classic bikes dealers here Im afraid.
Ordering it online and having it delivered is not a problem but I need to know exactly what to buy and where to order it from.
And thats why I have come asking for your advice and help.
Its summer time and I am really missing out on long evening time rides, as I am sure a lot of you can relate to :)
Thanks
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Ben
Honda CB350 Racers Promotion - Moderator
Victoria
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Posted - 20 Jun 2008 : 09:36:35 AM
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Hi Nitro,
Sounds like you need to change the condensers - forget the mechanics, get a repair manual if you can find one where you are! You can use just about any 12V car condensers if they fit in, or get the honda ones if you can find them.
If this does not work and you still want an electronic iggie, try some googling! There are not many places producing ignitions for the CB350 Twin, but boretech in the states can supply one (a bit expensive, but that depends on what is expensive to you!). See the link below.
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You can confirm what year/model your bike is by checking the engine/frame numbers against the info on the following site:
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Nitro
Level 1 Member
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Posted - 20 Jun 2008 : 11:40:41 PM
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Well we did manage to figure out that I have a CB350K4 produced from early 1972 to 1973.
But bore-tech.com is offering an electronic ignition system (which i presume is the same as a CDI) for 375$!!!
ill try and look around on other sites
but thanks for the help Ben :)
i really appreciate it, now i am pointed in the right direction, i have started googling
but is there not a supplier like that in the uk or australia? |
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Ben
Honda CB350 Racers Promotion - Moderator
Victoria
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Posted - 21 Jun 2008 : 12:55:22 PM
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Unfortunately there is no company in Aus (that I know of) producing electronic iggies for the K series twins. There was a company called Newtronic in the UK producing them, but I think they have folded. When you can find them they are all expensive items i'm afraid!
If you are just riding on the road then the points are generally fine if you set them up right - and all parts are still available new from Honda, or David Silver speares in the UK.
Best of Luck.
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Nitro
Level 1 Member
Other Area
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Posted - 21 Jun 2008 : 3:49:37 PM
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| Is there a difference between a CDI unit and an Electronic Ignition System? |
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Ben
Honda CB350 Racers Promotion - Moderator
Victoria
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Posted - 22 Jun 2008 : 7:35:59 PM
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| There are a few different kinds of electronic ignitions and CDI is one of them. |
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john feakes
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Victoria
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Posted - 23 Jun 2008 : 10:08:47 AM
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Hi Nitro, it may be worth trying Boyer Bransden Ignitions You must be logged in to see this link. and D&M Engineering for PVL ignition davidmike_eng@yahoo.co.uk but, there is no reason why your existing system can't be made to work properly, especially if not going to be raced. Do you have a Honda network there? Do you have the necessary skill to do it yourself? It sounds like something is worn and not functioning properly. Have you been able to isolate the problem? Are your points opening? Don't give up!
Cheers, John |
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Nitro
Level 1 Member
Other Area
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Posted - 23 Jun 2008 : 11:41:54 PM
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wow...thanks for the support guys, i really appreciate it
i have emailed both boyerbransden.com support and davidmike about availability of Electronic Ignition System
i hope they give me a positive response
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Nitro
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Ben
Honda CB350 Racers Promotion - Moderator
Victoria
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Posted - 25 Jun 2008 : 7:22:12 PM
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Hi Nitro,
Nice try, but as I mentioned before, Newtronic are no longer in business. See the following link.
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Seriously, I have looked, the only systems available out there for the 350K4 are the expensive race systems, (very good for racing but not for road) or the home made systems (based on whatever components you can get your hands on).
Much better solution is to sit down and really figure out what is wrong with your current points system. They really do work very well when set up - don't forget they have been running on them for many years!
Keep googling.
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David
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Australia
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Posted - 25 Jun 2008 : 7:29:20 PM
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You could do a search in You must be logged in to see this link.
There is quite a few posts about it, but it looks like NEWTRONIC ignitions are not longer available on some of the posts I just did. |
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David
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Bummers
Level 3 Member
Queensland
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Posted - 25 Jun 2008 : 7:35:27 PM
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Their website is You must be logged in to see this link.
And you could email them:
newtronic@autocar-electrical.com
It looks like it might suit your needs.
They are in Tassie!
Proprietor Shayn Harkness
Company Harkness Consulting Services
Postal Address PO Box 195
Sheffield
TAS 7306
Australia
AUSTRALIA
Mobile tel: 0419 905482
Fax: (03) 6491 1692
OUTSIDE AUSTRALIA
Mobile tel: +61 419 905482
Fax: +61 36491 1692
email: shayn@motorcycle-ignition.com
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Ben
Honda CB350 Racers Promotion - Moderator
Victoria
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Posted - 25 Jun 2008 : 8:14:57 PM
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Hopefully Shayn in Tassie can sort you out. I tried a while ago and he could not get one for my 350 due to no stock being available from Newtronics in the UK; but worth another try!
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Nitro
Level 1 Member
Other Area
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Posted - 25 Jun 2008 : 11:14:43 PM
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woohoo!!
just had a chat with Shayn
he says he has 1 piece!!
i confirmed it and my friend in the UK should be emailing him the credit card details as we speak
unfortunately he will be leaving for vacation tomorrow for 2 weeks and can only ship it after he comes back, since he has to modify it as well
but i guess if i have waited for so long...i can wait for 2-3 more weeks :)
but thank you SO much Ben and Bummers man!!!
thank you so much!
now lets see when we get the kit, eh?
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Ben
Honda CB350 Racers Promotion - Moderator
Victoria
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Posted - 26 Jun 2008 : 07:07:10 AM
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Great News! Hope it works well for you.
Cheers. |
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Nitro
Level 1 Member
Other Area
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Posted - 26 Jun 2008 : 2:21:08 PM
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| thank ye! :) |
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Bummers
Level 3 Member
Queensland
244 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2008 : 6:30:44 PM
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quote:
but thank you SO much Ben and Bummers man!!!
No wuckers...
another Honda to pass!
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Nitro
Level 1 Member
Other Area
11 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jun 2008 : 4:21:48 PM
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lol ha!
we dont have tracks here in pakistan
we have street races
usually at night time with the lights off so its more fun
trust me...u dont wana pass this honda ;)
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Nitro
Level 1 Member
Other Area
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Posted - 26 Jul 2008 : 4:46:47 PM
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got the kit delivered today
woohoo
the custom duty on it was about 46% of its value which completely BLEW me away
but this is pakistan and we have 'ways' to go around the issue so i ended up paying about 50$ US as 'taxes' and they let it go
now i need to find someone to help me install it
fingers crossed :) |
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Ben
Honda CB350 Racers Promotion - Moderator
Victoria
288 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 10:26:02 AM
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Good news. Should just be a matter of removing the points plate/assembly, unlugging it and removing the points cam from the end of the cam shaft. Then putting the new stuff in its place, then set the timing and you are away! Hopefully you got some instructions as well.
Good luck.
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Nitro
Level 1 Member
Other Area
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Posted - 31 Jan 2009 : 10:55:15 PM
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well after a million years i am back :)
the problem was i just couldnt find anyone willing to install the kit for me
no one was qualified honestly
then i found this heavy bike mechanic who knew enough about the new pulse systems etc to agree to look at it
well it took him a while but the kit is working perfectly now
the revs are thru the roof as predicted and its idling at 500 rpm which shocked the mechanic as he had never seen that with this sort of bike
1 of my carbs leaks fuel(not too much..a drop or two once an hour) and we have been trying to sort that out
but for now..id thought id say thanku to all u guys for your help and i hope you can now point me in the right direction about getting proper original carbs :)
heres the kit working btw
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cheers
i posted this link on one of pakistan's local biker forums and quite a number of bikers want to for this kit now lol |
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