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team400
Level 1 Member
New South Wales
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 Posted - 01 May 2009 : 2:12:26 PM
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I have had several of my contacts tell me they are having problems registering so they can post comment
Surely us 125 riders are'nt that dumb.Maybe ,maybe not
Regards Sir Al
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2009 : 7:00:40 PM
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Hello Sir Al,
Yes there was an issue earlier in the week with registrations that I was made aware of by 3 people which one of them was rude and abrupt.
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Originally posted by team400
I have had several of my contacts tell me they are having problems registering so they can post comment
Surely us 125 riders are'nt that dumb.Maybe ,maybe not
Regards Sir Al
So when you get comments like the following from people who do not know what they are doing:
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From: Allan Wettenhall [mailto:allan.wettenhall@bigpond.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2009 12:00 AM
To: Webmaster
Subject: Registration ?
Importance: High
Name: Allan Wettenhall
<Removed>
<Removed>, Victoria 3226
Daytime Phone: <Removed>
Evening Phone: <Removed>
Email Address: allan.wettenhall@bigpond.com.au
Directed to: Webmaster
Comments: Why all the registration crap ? I've been trying to register for two days !for Gods sake we're only a bunch of motorcyclists why all the security ?I'm an active campaigner of a P4 and a P5 125 and thought I might be able to contibute, but I don't know if its worth all the hassles !
How Did You Hear About Us? Friend
IP Address: 124.181.100.84
To which I replied:
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From: Webmaster @ Classic Motorcycling Australia
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2009 6:59 PM
To: 'Allan Wettenhall'
Subject: RE: Registration ?
Hello Allan,
Your e-mail is the first one I have received to advise me that the registration was not working. The reason behind all the “security” as you call it, is because of the amount of SPAMMERS that try to register and send the users CRAP and I want to stop this as much as possible. I have now fixed the registration, sorry for the inconvenience.
Regards,
David
Webmaster @ Classic Motorcycling Australia
And this is the response that he gave me:
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From: Allan Wettenhall [mailto:allan.wettenhall@bigpond.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2009 9:18 PM
To: Webmaster
Subject: Gremlins
Importance: High
Name: Allan Wettenhall
<Removed>
<Removed>, Victoria 3226
Daytime Phone: <Removed>
Evening Phone: <Removed>
Email Address: allan.wettenhall@bigpond.com.au
Directed to: Webmaster
Comments: This site is Bull****!Three times I have constucted a lengthy epistle,which I considered constuctive only to have them dissappear as the site told me I failed to put in my password on following prompt I come back to find message gone !.A mate of mine well known in classic racing Peter Forkes tried 5 times to register to no avail ! whats going on ?This site is Bull****! now the anti spam code wo'nt let me put this in !
How Did You Hear About Us? Friend
IP Address: 58.168.205.168
I kind of told him to:
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Piss off then. I don’t need your crap for the free site I waste my money on.
There is 5 people awaiting in the pending list which need to click on the link that was sent to them, like you did to complete registration.
I have tested this and the registration works fine. If someone (excluding: Allan Wettenhall) has not recieved the e-mail, please check to make sure that the Anti-Spam system at your end has not junked the e-mail as it is a no response e-mail address and may be there. If this is not the case, please contact me via the Contact Us form.
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2009 : 7:27:10 PM
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I just found this in my e-mail:
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From: Allan Wettenhall [mailto:allan.wettenhall@bigpond.com]
Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 9:33 AM
To: Webmaster @ Classic Motorcycling Australia
Subject: Re: Gremlins
You are quite right you are wasting you money on it !as the word gets around you'll have it all to yourself .bye bye.
The sort of mature well informed person Allan W is.
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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GD66
Senior Member
Western Australia
390 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2009 : 7:52:47 PM
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Relax, Allan ! Just be patient. This forum is one of the least-aggressive, most casual bike forums running, and is also our best chance of getting a big mob of 125s on the grid at future classic meets in Vic. If you had rego issues, I'm sure they'll be sorted, in the meantime chill out bud, and consider alternative means of getting all the 125 gallopers in Vic together for a damn good THRASH ! regards GD  |
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john feakes
Advanced Member
Victoria
791 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2009 : 09:34:21 AM
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I'll second the motion.
Allan, don't you know that computers were designed to give kids the upper hand over their parents? Just relax and try again. The site works perfectly once you have cleared the initial security barriers and we really want your input.If throwing spanners could fix bikes we'd all be A grade mechanics!
Try again.
Cheers, John  |
125 RIDERS' ALLIANCE
A wise person simplifies the complicated, a fool complicates the simple. |
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team400
Level 1 Member
New South Wales
19 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2009 : 09:48:12 AM
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G'Day Kids
I think we are missing the point here
For what ever reasons there seems to be a cause for delay
Thank you David for your provision of this site , but its not just Al that has cracked the darks with the registration proceedure,maybe it could be looked at to make it a little more user friendly
PS John Im already an A grade mecnanic (33 years)
regards Sir Al |
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john feakes
Advanced Member
Victoria
791 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2009 : 10:24:17 AM
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One thing I have learned in my life is that the best way to get help with a problem is to be courteous and ask for help. Most people will respond if asked politely.
David, can you do anything from your end to alleviate any registration problems?
We are very lucky to have this site to communicate our ideas over distances that would once have been insurmountable.
We are all here because we love motorbikes. So no brawling please.
Congratulations Sir Al. We need people like you.
Cheers, John |
125 RIDERS' ALLIANCE
A wise person simplifies the complicated, a fool complicates the simple. |
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Allan
Site Moderator
National
599 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2009 : 11:39:32 AM
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| its unreal people complain about log'n in. If you knew how many hackers spammers try to put down the site each day u would rethink about the complaining,if its not done this way u could/will have all nasty's getting back into ur pc not just into You must be logged in to see this link. and then u would realy complain.. "KISS" is not the way to go with modern web sites any more.. |
Allan Greening |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2009 : 11:44:50 AM
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I used to only require a username and a e-mail address with no verification on the site, but the SPAMMERS would be in and SPAMMING everyone and I got complaints about the SPAM people where getting and the posts that where going up. I have cut down most (about 99.5%) of the SPAMMERS with the way the registration is.
It is a simple process to register and as John Feakes has stated: The site works perfectly once you have cleared the initial security barriers
Do I make it so SPAMMERS get back on, or leave the little bit of security I have there. I know some sites do not allow you on unless you have been approved and this would delay the registration more.
Keep in mind that I did reply to Allan W's first e-mail that was rude and abrupt in a polite manner and he was still rude and abrupt in his next e-mail.
I have been helping the Classic/Post Classic and Historic motorcycle community for a number of years with this site and I feel that I do not deserve comments like what I received from Allan W and his threat he has made as well. |
Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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peen0_0
Level 3 Member
Victoria
224 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2009 : 4:23:54 PM
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Absolutely no problems from this end with log-on's at any time. Great site, willing help when we need it, and full of interesting info.
I see no need to change anything. Keep up the great work.
Cheers, Tony (peen0_0) Sidecar #20, The Pink Pig. |
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team400
Level 1 Member
New South Wales
19 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2009 : 09:16:03 AM
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Again kids stop being so defensive
Peeno,As you proved logging on is not a problem,its REGISRATION,and hence have you not noticed no new members since jerry???
6 people that have rung me have not received the confirmation email,I'm not blaming anyone,Im trying to help our sport.
I cant use my PM facility as I cant change my email address to my new one.
I'm happy to put my mobile no up if that can get a resolution
Regards Sir Al |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2009 : 3:16:02 PM
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OK, after hours of work working out why the registration wasn't working correctly, I have fixed it fully. I have tested and know why the e-mails where not being sent. When I moved hosts about 2 weeks ago, some of the files did not copy correctly.
All users that are currently pending should now have an e-mail asking them to click on a link to complete the registration process. Sorry for the inconvenience caused to all. 
The main point is to not be rude and abrupt and it may not have taken as long as it did to get it working again.
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Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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siral
Level 1 Member
New South Wales
10 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2009 : 4:55:38 PM
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David
Thanks a million for your persistance(and mine),great result,and in the words of Glenn,lets all chill out & have some fun(ooh sounds so sixties)
Now where were we,Ive got to rustle up some 125 Bro"s |
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 04 May 2009 : 9:15:03 PM
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Hi Guys,
I have been involved in this site for a very long time now and although I do not normally post here these days due to my involvement with MA. Incidentally I am not forbidden but its easier not to make a mistake by not posting at all so I dont by choice but I do visit almost daily.
The point I was going to make is that in the past there were several nasties on here who almost killed this site off and while its taking a while to get back to where it was it is happening. If David feels the need for the security level he has set then I support him totally as we all should. This could and should be a forum for discussing our first love which is of course Historic Bikes so lets just focus on that and not the annoying peripherals.
Ok I am off my soapboxI have Graham Masons ex Bert Flood Bultaco TSS 125 in my shed if anyone is wondering where it ended up.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA |
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the kid
Level 1 Member
Victoria
5 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2009 : 07:33:19 AM
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In defense of Alan W and his "curt" emails , I must admit to suffering a fair bit of frustration at trying to actually post something here . Fortunately there were no spanners close to hand  or I might have "fixed" my computer .
One item that did really cause me grief and tested my best Fred Gassit language was the anti spam entry . It was shown as a mix of upper and lower case with numerals . But following exactly did not allow registration . Tried , eventually all lower case and it worked !!!
Only point this out just in case someone else out there has had the same issue .
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2009 : 10:55:43 AM
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According to the code that I use, it is all the following letters and numerics: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
You will notice that it is all uppercase and no number one (1) or zero (0). I know that some people see a nine (9) as lowercase g, but if this is the case, then it should be a 9 and not a G.
The lines and the dots and dashes are to trick the SPAM robots from seeing correctly the items and I can reduce this, but found this to be the level to beat the robots from registering. |
Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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revhd
Level 2 Member
Victoria
108 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2009 : 3:04:54 PM
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ok registered now
How to get good 125 grids? easy put all the 125s in one race,either in with the pre war-250 classics or give them there own race if the numbers are good enough,,the riders get better racing the spectators see better racing which keeps interest up for the 125s,,,,it worked at the Southern Classic good grids good racing,,then they dropped at the vic titles ???????????????????? so nobody entered...........
I own and race period 3,4,5 125s but do not put me in the period races i will not ride around at back field own my own in period 3,4 or 5 600 races,i like racing!!!!!.put all 125 together in one race it works!!! and good for the sport,
The riders all get to know one another which helps to put more bikes on the track etc
Having said all that i will be going to historic winton with a 125, i know the races are all in but for that meeting it has to be that way,,,,anymore 125s going???? |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2009 : 3:19:55 PM
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I am all for keeping spammers out. David, perhaps some sort of explanation about why the registration is tight may help.
I am aware some racers are impatient but it may help.
Otherwise I reckon the site is FANTASTIC and feel sorry for people who think the site is unsatisfactory. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2009 : 5:53:57 PM
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The reason for the tight registration is because of the following:
Since September 2006 I had a number of complaints about users getting a number of e-mails from people at this site wanting them to send an amount of money to Nigeria to get a lot of money ($Millions) from a deceased estate and they also get some companies sending the users Private Messages promoting their products including Viagra.
Most of these e-mails are from robots that register which happens on all sorts of forums around the world. I have found by putting the Anti-SPAM I have in place and the required fields, it has stopped 99.5% of the rubbish getting through, thus protecting you, the user from the rubbish as much as physically possible.
I am the lead developer of the forum software that I use here an a number of sites I have. I have not had an issue with the registrations until I moved hosts and someone (which I am happy to accommodate) started to promote the site more than what I thought.
The old host that I had allowed the site down for a number of days before they could bring it back up and this was caused by another of their customers and it happened again so moved the site and did not check the code correctly when I copied it down and put it back online. I have fixed it now and it works fine and had 8 registrations just since Friday.
If someone feels the site is not satisfactory, then they have the right to go to sites that they want to go to. I just feel it unfair for people to be rude from the first e-mail to the last e-mail. I feel that if the user was to use common courtesy, then I would of helped them further, just ask Peter Forkes what I have done to help him online or even Greg Gould on how I have helped him. They both asked nicely and I helped them out and are now online here at this site.
I do not mind helping if the user is having issues, but it will always boil down to "you should expect to be treated as you treat the other person" and is human nature to always see that.
That's my 2 cents on the whole subject and doesn't require further input. I have put all the e-mails up from Allan W and not edited any of them, apart from his phone numbers and address and also posted my replies as I replied.  |
Regards,
David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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john feakes
Advanced Member
Victoria
791 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2009 : 10:46:00 AM
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Thanks for your efforts David, they are greatly appreciated.
So guys, let's put yesterday behind us and move on.
Cheers, John |
125 RIDERS' ALLIANCE
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Edited by - john feakes on 06 May 2009 10:53:49 AM |
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