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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
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 Posted - 31 Jul 2004 : 7:14:52 PM
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John, I've had time to think about the Class C rules. The 1951 cutoff date, and allowing 750cc sidevalves in, seems to indicate that the intention is to limit suspensions to plunger, Vincent frames and the only swinging arm frame would be the MK8 KTT Velo. Triumph sprung hubs would be allowed, however the Mk2 hub probably wouldn't be eligible (made up to 1954).
I believe the racing is intended to represent the type held at Daytona just before they banned the DOHC engines.
The reason for banning featherbeds would be that they were about in 1951, but represented a major change.
When I read the rules I believe they exclude all swinging arm frames except the 1938 Velo.
It might interest a few people that Ken Lucas has an early sprung hub Triumph 500 with the complete original race kit, and I believe it's for sale. It would be excellent for this type of racing, but not much use for anything else. The only thing that should beat it would be a good garden gate Manx, (or Kel Carrick).
Have I got the right slant on this? |
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matcho mick
Advanced Member
New South Wales
570 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2004 : 10:17:07 PM
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hey Al,none as far as i can tell?,P2 up to 45,C all in up to 51,but combining with P3 500 ohc/v up to 51 as well,ah so notsotricky? ,ps re Rudge,will let you know after East Creek meeting,(although i think the really quick one's staying in NZ) |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 02 Aug 2004 : 3:18:52 PM
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| I understand that Hugh Anderson is bringing a fast pre war BSA to the Australian Championships at Winton in November. Should really be worth watching if the Rudge is there. |
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matcho mick
Advanced Member
New South Wales
570 Posts |
Posted - 03 Aug 2004 : 11:14:49 PM
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| don't know about that Al,race preparation for this rudge consists of swapping club plates for race plates,ditto for carby(petrol to methanol),did get to ride the quicker one at Pukehoe,but it stays there,(saves on freight?),Hugh Anderson on a wheelbarrow would still be good value,a very tidy rider! |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2004 : 08:33:04 AM
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| When are you blokes building a Class C? |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2004 : 10:51:21 AM
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| Mick, the Rudge I referred to has been raced in Vic several times, and has won a lot. I believe Vic Vasella is involved. Is that your bike? |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2004 : 10:54:30 AM
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| John, my young brother has an Ariel frame he's setting up for historic speedway. I've lent his mate a set of my old leathers. After my brother saw them he said he thought he would stick to speedway. There's even a hole at the collarbone position. |
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matcho mick
Advanced Member
New South Wales
570 Posts |
Posted - 08 Aug 2004 : 9:43:40 PM
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| No, Vic's is his own,(i think could have been from his dad's collection),he had been working on it for a while,the ones i'm referring to are Peter Scott's from Sydney,Peters usual riders gone surfing!(again),so i get to step up to the plate? |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2004 : 07:57:46 AM
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| Fellas, remember I started something about Class C solos. Perhaps the "Remember when " spot is best for the memories |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2004 : 7:32:47 PM
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| John, Isn't a pre-war Rudge a Class C bike, and aren't we talking about Class C? Mick and I were just chewing the fat and trying to get an idea of what might run in the class. What's your problem? |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2004 : 10:53:07 PM
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"I understand that Hugh Anderson is bringing a fast pre war BSA to the Australian Championships at Winton in November."...."John, my young brother has an Ariel frame he's setting up for historic speedway. I've lent his mate a set of my old leathers. After my brother saw them he said he thought he would stick to speedway. There's even a hole at the collarbone position."
My issue is that these comments seem a bit remote from Class C bikes. I may be wrong and I stand to be correctted, but often a topic is lost with other comments that may be more suited on another topic where others can participate. Class C people may be led away from the encouragement when holes in leathers come up. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2004 : 10:55:27 PM
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| But as a matter of interest, I am still learning about these old machines, would a "period " Rudge do well as a pre 1951 500cc in Class C. I thought there may have been a 1951 BSA, etc that would have liked a Rudge?? |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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