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Bretta
Level 2 Member
Victoria
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 Posted - 06 Feb 2008 : 09:03:03 AM
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Hello All,
An informal discussion was held at the Island re: making the long trip to WA for the Aussie Titles in November and I gather form the views of others that there is a number of teams that are keen to go. Given the wide range of people that we all know I am thinking that between us all we might be able to come up with a plan that will suit those that want to go and on a budget that won't break the bank. I believe the main issue is getting the outfits there and back again possibly by container or truck, train or horse drawn cart (I'm sure Bondy could find one .....)any ideas, views or comments would be good. I'm happy to do some leg work to get this moving, so let me know if your interested or can help in any way shape or form.
Bretta
Brass Balls
Sidecar #70 <<<---(Should read 07 now .... )
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
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Posted - 06 Feb 2008 : 7:15:21 PM
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Hi Bretta,
Containers are a very good option, what we do from WA is to combine solos and sidecars together and make the solo guys use containers of the same height, easily sourced from bike shops, and we put the sidecars on top usually uncrated. Containers can be hired quite easily and we will make sure a fork lift truck is on site to assist with unloading. Dont be talked into using a sidelifter for the container they are too expensive, a tilt tray is perfect for the job. We can assist with sourcing a truck in WA if need be.
Please dont be shy asking for help or advice as we have to do this every year and no a few of the pitfalls, plus we will do all we can to help make your visit enjoyable and stress free as long as you let us win.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA |
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Bretta
Level 2 Member
Victoria
57 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2008 : 07:52:43 AM
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Thanks Alan,
Is great to know that thee are heaps of people out there that have done this many times as you said, so yes we will be calling on you for assistance for sure. As for letting you win .... well lets just say we will have fun no matter what.
So what about the rest of you guys on the east coast, interested??????????
Cheers
Bretta
Brass balls
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Bear
Level 1 Member
New South Wales
12 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2008 : 12:40:07 PM
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Bretta
Bryce Davies dropped in awhile ago and we had a yak about getting over to WA. We tossed the container idea around but with only 2 sidecars and 1 solo it wasn't going to work for us.
Maybe we could tag along with you blokes if the container plan is a goer. We wouldn't take up much room and we don't eat much.
Cheers,
Brian |
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Bummers
Level 3 Member
Queensland
244 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2008 : 9:50:29 PM
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There was some discussion at PI regarding the NSW PCRA people organising a truck to WA (for solos) but maybe all us solo & sidecar "Easterners" should be combining resources on this one?
There's going to be people from Qld, NSW, Vic, SA & NT wanting transport - anyone know Lindsay Fox? |
“Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting.” Steve McQueen |
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GD66
Senior Member
Western Australia
390 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2008 : 07:53:42 AM
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| There was some chat at the Island Classic that Fergusson Transport, who run all the competitors' machines around to the Australian Superbikes rounds, may be worth approaching for their viewpoint on a solution. Obviously this would take a degree of (wince) planning and co-operation, but may be worth throwing into the mix. If it's any guide, the containers from the Wild West that Alan mentioned usually travel with around 20 solos and 3 or 4 sidecars. |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2008 : 11:58:33 AM
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I have plans to build a deck system in a container that is removable.
Max Hooper and I had wondered along the same lines as this topic. So it would be possible to get a double layer. If the WA blokes met us at the airport it may be very easy to get 8 sidecars to WA. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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littledoug
Level 2 Member
Victoria
35 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2008 : 4:17:15 PM
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G,Day Guys
As i intend to go to the championships i will throw my hat in the ring , for those that do not know Rural Hydraulics does have its own enginering work shop and the fit out of a container could be undertaken without to mutch stress (provided it is not left till the last minuit) i know i am further from the west than melbourne but i am closer than sydney and brisbane so dont count me out
Little Doug |
batteling on in the face of shear adversary |
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Bummers
Level 3 Member
Queensland
244 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2008 : 4:45:16 PM
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Are you Sidecar guys looking to do your own thing about transport to WA?
As you probably know already, I've sent emails to some transport companies regarding a "logistics solution" to getting ALL the East Coast competitors (solo & sidecar) machinery to & from WA - see my postings at: You must be logged in to see this link.
I would like to think there might be a transport company out there that can see that they could make good money & give us all a good deal.
Cheers,
Bummers |
“Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting.” Steve McQueen |
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GD66
Senior Member
Western Australia
390 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2008 : 8:38:31 PM
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| John and others : re getting met at the airport, billeting, having bikes ferried from Perth to the meeting the next weekend, chasing a campground, or anything else we can do to help with your trip to the Wild West, be assured we will do everything possible to assist if you're coming over. Stay tuned to the CMA website, or contact anyone from the HCMC of WA race committee, if we can help in any way, we will. Those who have attended previous nationals here in 1998 and 2003 will attest that it may be a long haul, but it's always a ripper ! |
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GD66
Senior Member
Western Australia
390 Posts |
Posted - 09 Feb 2008 : 2:27:46 PM
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To add to that, I have had great results from webjet.com.au, they combine the fare schedules of Jetstar, Virgin and Qantas, and help you out by spotting fare specials from all three. As a result, I was able to get a fare from Perth - Melbourne and back for $149 each way, so I had no choice but to go to the Island Classic ! So, worth a look for cheap fares once the bike transport is arranged. Webjet also feature a car rental pricing facility along the same lines, comparing the 3 major outlets for prices and/or special deals.
Also Bayswater Hire Cars will do you a late model Corolla hatch for around $130 for 3 days, they are not at the airport but are only a 10 minute cab ride away. |
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Bretta
Level 2 Member
Victoria
57 Posts |
Posted - 11 Feb 2008 : 09:16:19 AM
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Hello Again All,
Wow this is a great response to the issue at hand, so how can we make this happen? I think the numbers are going to be very important as to how we do this as in how many solos n sidecars can we get into 1 container ... is 1 going to be enough or do we need two. Also how many ppl want to stay for the week after meet. I suggest we ask around for others that might be interested and get numbers which could be then posted here and contact made with the PCRA n Qld'ers n S.A and bring them into it as well. The more people we get the cheaper the costs all round ..... is Rail an option?
Stay tuned for more info or put your 2 cents worth on here but all help will be greatly apprieciated.
Bretta
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Geoffpgrant
Level 3 Member
South Australia
204 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2008 : 11:04:07 PM
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I am assuming that most of the ideas above will zip past my home chock full and locked up so that squeezing in another outfit and maybe a solo or two will be out of the question unless I want to do a couple thousand kilometre round trip in the wrong direction?
Subsequently I am pursuing other options. Clearly the HMCRRSA is looking at options for getting its members bikes to Perth but I am also looking into the idea of pulling a dog trailer behind the bus. Don't know how many I could get on (I have not got the trailer yet) but in theory I reckon I could handle 3, maybe 4 sidecars and 10 or so solos. I will keep all in touch with developments and if will be a first in first served basis.
In the meantime, none of you have mentioned the 'after titles meeting' at Collie. Do you all plan to spend a week in WA and then ride a second track over there or not? I know that I certainly do and it would be great if there were a few of you there as well.
Cheers
Geoff
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GD66
Senior Member
Western Australia
390 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2008 : 7:33:46 PM
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| Good stuff Geoff, looking forward to seeing the Big Pink Front Brake Lever wailing round Wanneroo. We have a nationals committee meeting this Wednesday, after that I hope to be able to release more info about the titles, transport, and the post-nats meeting. Just to repeat though, the HCMC of WA is prepared to issue a sum to the main historic club in each state towards the cost of a container to ship machines over this way. More soon. |
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rol
Level 2 Member
Victoria
22 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2008 : 08:12:21 AM
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G'day all
I had a posting on here about this topic, but it has gone, so I'll try again.
I have teed up a truck that can take 10 more solos and gear for approximately $650 return, from the Yarra Valley just out of Melbourne.
(Possibly pick some up in Adelaide)
Specially designed enclosed semi trailer for bikes, so no crating necessary and we are doing the round at Collie as well.
Pretty good value, I think. Bikes transported to the 2 race meetings and a holiday.
Contact me asap to book a spot.
Regards
Rol.
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VMX247
Level 1 Member
Western Australia
17 Posts |
Posted - 27 Mar 2008 : 1:46:18 PM
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| All national visitors can find info for Collie down south WA at You must be logged in to see this link. |
West Aust Sidecar Accord.
Pre 75 of course.Is there any other! |
Edited by - VMX247 on 12 May 2008 11:23:25 AM |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2008 : 08:15:46 AM
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John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Matt Morgan
Level 2 Member
Victoria
89 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2008 : 2:53:11 PM
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Did Bretta say he was going to do some legwork? Was that "leg" as in singular?
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 04 May 2008 : 5:55:56 PM
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| The WA club has offered a fee of $1000 to any group on 10 machines taht come over in a container. There will be one grant per state |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2008 : 10:57:40 PM
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| Who is planning to go to Perth? |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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rol
Level 2 Member
Victoria
22 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2008 : 11:51:15 PM
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G'day John
I'm going. Taking a Period 5 CBX. I have a better rider, doing the titles and I'll have a ride at Collie, (if the bike is still going).
Our bike is being transported with Trevor Manley, along with 3 others so far.
There is room for another 7, so get in quick.
For further info on transport to the two meetings, contact Trev on tmpps@bigpond.com
Regards
Rol. |
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Geoffpgrant
Level 3 Member
South Australia
204 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2008 : 10:43:22 PM
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I am definitely going with the sidecar and probably a couple of solos for Craig and I to play with in between times...
Geoff
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Geoffpgrant
Level 3 Member
South Australia
204 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2008 : 10:46:31 PM
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I am definitely going with the sidecar and probably a couple of solos for Craig and I to play with in between times...
Geoff
Sidecar #30 |
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GD66
Senior Member
Western Australia
390 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2008 : 8:30:05 PM
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Hi once again lads, things are ticking along nicely behind the scenes here in the West, as the historic nats loom. We're in the final throes of having the supp regs approved, and are still receiving favourable feedback from friends in the east who are indicating they will be travelling over, great news indeed. It rather looks as though the extra meeting the weekend after the nats will be at Collie after all, MA weren't very interested in approving the projected circuit at Northam from reading between the lines, however our friends in the Southwest will make sure those of you keen to stay on for an extra meeting will be well looked after. All computer-hooked licence holders will be aware of the e-newsletter that appears every few weeks from Andrew at MA, and he has indicated that we can be involved in that process to disseminate info about the nats as it comes to hand, and we'll also be doing another nationwide mail-out with more info in the next few weeks. In the meantime, I can say we've had one or two approaches from eastern staters who are concerned that they may travel over here, to find that numbers in their category may be insufficient to qualify as a championship class : this happens at all nats meetings, and I can only recommend that above all else, you should enter !! Then, it's really up to competitors in that category to gee each other up to turn up and compete, as we saw the great effort from the sidecar lads for the Phillip Island Classic, and then if your communication just before the meeting indicates that the numbers will be down, then you can withdraw your entry, or turn up and ride anyway. Realistically, most lesser-supported categories will only have 3 or 4 potential winners, and a squad of chasers, but previous nats visitors to Barbagallo (oh alright, Wanneroo !) will recall that it's worth it just to get stuck in and enjoy the circuit.
Anyway, stay tuned for more updates via the CMA website, and info will be coming onstream at the HCMC of WA website as the nats approach, on You must be logged in to see this link. Those with phone enquiries should contact Eddie Preston, the well-known Tiger 100 punter, on 0402 135 090 for more info. More updates soon.... |
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GD66
Senior Member
Western Australia
390 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2008 : 7:45:17 PM
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Just to add, we are offering a grant to each state to assist with the transport of containers to WA for the nats (and of course the Collie meet the following week if required....) of $1000. Our nats committee chairman, ex-British League and Aussie test speedway star Bob Humphreys, has already contacted the major historic clubs in each eastern state, so those wishing to get involved should contact the following clubs : HMRAV, Hartwell, Tasmania MCC, Historic MCRR of SA, PCRA of NSW, QEMSC and TERRA.
The grant per state of $1000 is based upon a container with the machines of 10 riders or more. Obviously, travel assistance of this nature is open to being abused, or being unsuitable for individual cases for those unfortunate enough to be in remote areas, consequently our committee's decision is based upon a group of competitors from each state clubbing together to get across here for the nats. More soon.... |
Edited by - GD66 on 23 May 2008 7:48:14 PM |
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Patrick
Level 3 Member
Victoria
314 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2008 : 9:08:51 PM
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Great to see what you are doing. If we can help in any way with Victorian contacts, typing, phone calls etc please send an email or phone 03 5784 4163.
Congratulations on a great incentive.
Best
Patrick |
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GD66
Senior Member
Western Australia
390 Posts |
Posted - 29 May 2008 : 7:19:38 PM
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| Thank you Patrick, for your kind offer, no doubt we will be in touch along the way. Just to confirm, SUPP REGS ARE OUT now for the historic nats, and can be downloaded from the MA site, or our club site, so try ma.org.au. and scroll down the left column of the homepage for regs, or our club site at historicracing.asn.au. As I have mentioned, we will shortly be doing a mailout which will include info on accommodation, car rentals, circuit directions etc, so please if you are considering coming over, open the lines of communication with the major historic clubs in your state and work together to make the trip as easy and cost-effective as possible. More soon.... |
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Geoffpgrant
Level 3 Member
South Australia
204 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2008 : 11:44:17 PM
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Is there camping at the track for the Nationals?
Geoff
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rol
Level 2 Member
Victoria
22 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jun 2008 : 12:01:21 AM
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| No camping at Barbagallo, but there is at Collie the following weekend. |
Rol. |
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GD66
Senior Member
Western Australia
390 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jun 2008 : 7:48:29 PM
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| Bang on Rol, there used to be camping available but the morons that attend the touring car round saw to it that camping has been unavailable for some years. However, we will be mailing out an info list that includes camping grounds, caravan parks and hotels and motels in the Wanneroo area. Re Collie, there will be camping available at the circuit, plus there is a variety of other accommodation available, as well as plenty of other info about the Collie area, at collierivervalley.org.au. Keep the enquiries coming, lads, and we'll continue to answer them as best we can along the way. |
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Geoffpgrant
Level 3 Member
South Australia
204 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2008 : 10:11:36 PM
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Another question...
Will quality methanol be available at a reasonable price?
It does seem to be a bit silly having lots of us transporting loads of methanol across the desert so a good reliable supply at the western end would be useful. But I don't want to get caught paying over the top prices...
Geoff
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